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« on: July 30, 2007, 03:06:06 AM »

I was watching one of the numerous wii commercials that are out today, and I thought to myself, that while the wii itself is not exactly a gladiator compared to the massive hard drives of the ps3 and 360, the wii is perhaps the real winner in this race, because although it isn't exactly a great system (hardware wise) It's marketing plan to lure in non-gamers is really blasting off.

It's almost like... while microsoft and sony are trying to make the best system out on the market, nintendo is creating an army of children and elderly to take over the world.


Anyway, what do you all think about the console wars so far?
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« Reply #1 on: July 30, 2007, 09:13:44 PM »

While i agree that Wii is the best marketing , the best is the xbox 360. While there arent commercials that are about the there are alot of commercials about the games of xbox. Like the guitar her 2 and Gears of War commercials that where about the xbox.And the xbox to me has the best online package. While it dosent have a web browser u can download demos ,trailers and extra stuf for games and much more.

Winner: Xbox 360
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« Reply #2 on: July 30, 2007, 10:27:11 PM »

I'll second that, I'm more of a PC guy because the PC will never fade out whereas consoles do because you can’t really upgrade them and the get outdated, the most would be able to upgrade would be the HDD…
But in saying that the best console out now IMO is the 360, but the PC wins over all the consoles…
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« Reply #3 on: August 02, 2007, 05:47:40 PM »

I'll second that, I'm more of a PC guy because the PC will never fade out whereas consoles do because you can’t really upgrade them and the get outdated, the most would be able to upgrade would be the HDD…
But in saying that the best console out now IMO is the 360, but the PC wins over all the consoles…

true. I haven't thought about PCs. however, the upgrading thing may change as we see more and more home consoles update their games and data through online service. While this generation appears to be able to fade away like all the others in ten years, what will become of the next generation? Perhaps a console-computer that updates itself and stays around forever? With microsoft utilizing the media center in windows PCs to link between the two this generation, PCs may finally have some competition next time around.
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« Reply #4 on: August 02, 2007, 11:16:01 PM »

...While this generation appears to be able to fade away like all the others in ten years, what will become of the next generation? Perhaps a console-computer that updates itself and stays around forever?...

I think the only problem with this is that I think the consol companies want the console to become obsolete every few years. Sure, there's no doubt they want their system to be the best on the market and as fast & amazing as possible... but they make their real money and gain the most hype when another wave of new machines hits the market. It's the only time when every kid on the planet wants the same thing for Christmas at once, the rest of the years it's this game or that game...

The other problem is that it's hard to plan for the ever-changing technology on the horizon. If you have a console that pre-plans for future upgrades... how do you incorporate that? That is where the PC gets both its biggest strengths and its biggest weaknesses: Seemingly infinite upgrades and the bugs and compatability issues of novice customers attempting to make those upgrades. Consoles are great because they fit maximum power/performance and compatability all into one neat package. All you have to do is pop in a game and off you go.

I remember the N64 had a strange slot on the bottom of it. From what I can remember, it was supposed to be so that you could upgrade it in the future. I don't remember ever seeing the upgrade that was meant for this slot... but then again I have a bad memory. I always thought (back when I first got it) that the N64 was supposed to sit on top of another machine with additional memory and computing power and link to it, making it double or tripple in performance. More than likely, if there was anything released to go in that slot, it was essentially a stick or RAM or something. [If anyone knows what was really up with that, let me know] Anyways, the point is that the console companies haven't been very successful at upgrades so far and I think that's because it's not one of their strengths.



As for your original question... I'm not sure who's really winning. You're on to something with Wii's broader marketing. They also have more unique titles and gameplay. As long as you don't throw your controller through your new plasma screen, the Wii looks to be a more unique and creative system overall. In the mean time the other two systems built bigger "engines" and just keep revving them up at each other. They're both stunning at what they do, but they seem to be narrowly pursuing the same-ol' same-ol'.

Of course, I have to mention that I have none of these machines myself and can't make a valuable comparrison but looking at the broader picture, this is how I see it.
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« Reply #5 on: August 03, 2007, 04:10:41 PM »

I think the only problem with this is that I think the consol companies want the console to become obsolete every few years. Sure, there's no doubt they want their system to be the best on the market and as fast & amazing as possible... but they make their real money and gain the most hype when another wave of new machines hits the market. It's the only time when every kid on the planet wants the same thing for Christmas at once, the rest of the years it's this game or that game...

The other problem is that it's hard to plan for the ever-changing technology on the horizon. If you have a console that pre-plans for future upgrades... how do you incorporate that? That is where the PC gets both its biggest strengths and its biggest weaknesses: Seemingly infinite upgrades and the bugs and compatability issues of novice customers attempting to make those upgrades. Consoles are great because they fit maximum power/performance and compatability all into one neat package. All you have to do is pop in a game and off you go.

I remember the N64 had a strange slot on the bottom of it. From what I can remember, it was supposed to be so that you could upgrade it in the future. I don't remember ever seeing the upgrade that was meant for this slot... but then again I have a bad memory. I always thought (back when I first got it) that the N64 was supposed to sit on top of another machine with additional memory and computing power and link to it, making it double or tripple in performance. More than likely, if there was anything released to go in that slot, it was essentially a stick or RAM or something. [If anyone knows what was really up with that, let me know] Anyways, the point is that the console companies haven't been very successful at upgrades so far and I think that's because it's not one of their strengths.



As for your original question... I'm not sure who's really winning. You're on to something with Wii's broader marketing. They also have more unique titles and gameplay. As long as you don't throw your controller through your new plasma screen, the Wii looks to be a more unique and creative system overall. In the mean time the other two systems built bigger "engines" and just keep revving them up at each other. They're both stunning at what they do, but they seem to be narrowly pursuing the same-ol' same-ol'.

Of course, I have to mention that I have none of these machines myself and can't make a valuable comparrison but looking at the broader picture, this is how I see it.

You have a point. That is how the consoles make their big bucks... during the holiday months when all the little children (a more than a few teenagers and adults) all run out to ebgames at 4:00 in the morning to wait in line for 4 hours so they can get the latest console first.
and I there is a big ol' slot at the bottom of the n64. I just looked at it and I'm not sure either but I think you're right- it was originally planned as some kind of memory upgrader port. In japan this may have been ultilized... but who knows.

As far as the console wars go, your final paragraph sums it up perfectly. the 360 and ps3 are battering rams while the wii would be some sort of colorful exotic bird chillin' over on a tree, doin' it's thing. 
I think considering the huge amount of negative pressure on nintendo prior to the wii's release, they really turned more than the tables around.
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