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« on: December 14, 2010, 07:35:00 PM »

I've been thinking about the recent TES V release and I've come to the conclusion (It's amazing what you can get from a 70 second trailer) that the protagonist will become the next Emperor/Empress. "How the hell did you come to that conclusion!?" I hear you cry. Well, first of all, my theory isn't quite fully fleshed out so bear with me. Second, the trailer says something like "they fear the Dragon-Born" The dragon born are the only ones who can wear the Amulet of Kings (now destroyed) not just the Septims, but the Cyrodiils and Alessian rulers too. They are of conjoined blood with Akatosh and are traditionally rulers of Tamriel.

"What about titus Mede?" I hear you ask. Well, it is made quite clear in 'The Infernal City' that he only rules Cyrodiil, nothing is said of Skyrim. Perhaps our hero (whom we will all be posting about this time next year) rules a Northern Empire, of sorts (note the "s" in the title).

This could explain the length of time it has taken to release the sequel to The Infernal City, perhaps the next book takes place in the Northern Empire.

But, we wil probably have to wait another year. Tongue

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« Reply #1 on: December 14, 2010, 08:33:25 PM »

But how would that work with the lore?
That would make the UESP Lore page look something like this
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The Northern Empire: 4th era
With the rise of the daedra, and destruction of the empire, Skyrim and High Rock split off to form their own empire. But this new empire was still in dissaray, civil warsd in Skyrim plagued the nation and there was no hope left. Until a hero named (Insert character Name here) rose and took control over the empire, this made (Insert character Name here) emporer/ess of the Northern Empire for 42 years, and bore 3 offspring - one of which Hjgofur(Insert character surname here)  became the emporer after Insert character name here)....
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I think its more likely that the PC will assist a new dragonborn and help resolve the civil war that is happening over there (by the looks)
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« Reply #2 on: December 15, 2010, 05:27:34 PM »

Perhaps it will work like how the other games did when it comes to naming the hero in lore.
They aren't named. It could work just like how the Hero who slew Jagar Tharn isn't named or how the hero of Daggerfall isn't named or the Nerevarine isn't named or the new Mad-God or the Divine Crusader or the Arch-Mage or Champion of Cyrodiil won't be named.

And I doubt they would just "break off to form their own empire" there would be plenty of wars, a war of independence for example, and Skyrim (and the rest of Tamriel) would probably be split up into several different kingdoms (Dawnstar, Solitude, Whiterun perhaps) all warring against each other with an intricate web of alliances between each other (kind of like TES 2 Dagerfall) eventually, after the events of TES V, an empire could be formed (probably with a war preceding it).
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« Reply #3 on: December 18, 2010, 10:40:36 AM »

Perhaps it will work like how the other games did when it comes to naming the hero in lore.
They aren't named. It could work just like how the Hero who slew Jagar Tharn isn't named or how the hero of Daggerfall isn't named or the Nerevarine isn't named or the new Mad-God or the Divine Crusader or the Arch-Mage or Champion of Cyrodiil won't be named.
But they can't have an un named emporer. It would leave a significant hole in lore, whereas the neveravine and CoC could be 'quiet recluses' or something. The new Mad-God is just called Sheogorath I'm pretty sure.
As I said before, I think its far more likely that the PC will assist a new emporer.
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« Reply #4 on: December 18, 2010, 10:24:47 PM »

The dragonborn doesn't necessarily need to become the Emperor. Between Oblivion and the first novel, I believe the Empire is never re-formed. I'm not sure about that, though, as I haven't read the book. The heir to a failed empire might never be named in history books. Whether the player is dragonborn or is merely helping the dragonborn doesn't matter much to me. If the player is the dragonborn, it'll make much more sense that the world seems to revolve around them. If the player helps the dragonborn, there will be more freedom not to be the perfect hero. I think, if anything, the dragonborn will help to end a civil war in Skyrim and prevent some sort of Dragon invasion. That's a busy schedule but hardly enough to help reunite an entire empire in chaos.
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« Reply #5 on: December 19, 2010, 01:37:36 AM »

Have you seen this?
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« Reply #6 on: December 19, 2010, 04:05:31 AM »

I was just on that site looking for that sort of info but didn't find it. Thanks for the link.

So, Titus Mede invaded the Imperial City and took on the title of Emperor... but it seems like the other provinces were either in chaos or not part of the "Empire" at all. I'm not sure of that either. It sounds like he invaded from the North, so he could be from Skyrim, but I couldn't find much else about him.

Some people at the Imperial Library seem to think that TESV comes just before Titus Mede. If true, it might make a good case for the player helping either Titus Mede rise to power out of the Nordic civil war or helping his unnamed father.

I may just have to count myself out of the discussion since I haven't read the book. I'm not sure when I'll get a chance to read it OR all the theories and evidence out there that comes from the book.
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